Reno Cartwheel
February 2010: French and German coins

Next Meeting:

Dan Waterman will present the proposed and new design for the 2010 penny and National Parks quarters

2nd of February 7:30 p.m. at
Carrow’s Restaurant
605 N. Wells Avenue
Reno, NV  

At The Last Meeting

The annual dinner and election were held with Duke Morin and Dan Waterman elected to the board and
Karen Sanguinetti elected vice-president. Congratulations To the new board members and officer! There
were some 38 prizes in the raffle and the new club medal was selling fast to members. Coin #1 was won
at auction to Rusty King for $105. All four new pennies and 12 presidential dollars were available. The
dollars are still a dollar and the pennies were sold for .50 a set.

The new club 25th anniversary medallion is shown combining the designs for the 10th and 20th
anniversaries. The State of Nevada with a star at Reno was overlaid by the Reno arch. The reverse has
either the press or state seal and be made in silver and several base metals. Rusty King, Ken Hopple, and
Doug Larson, the designers of the medal stand before the press on December 19th when the coins were
minted with presentations by Alan Rowe and Sparks’ Mayor Gino Martini. The event was expertly
organized by Duke Morin. David Elliott in Santa Claus costume and his wife with reindeer antlers manned
the coin displays and offered the dollar exchange and all four new pennies to attendees.

Raffle prizes winners were:

Conn Davis: 1 oz Panama
Ed Waselewski: 1965 mint set
Rick DeAvila: Wheat pennies. Liberty nickels, SBA set, 2009 penny roll, Roman coin
Ken Hopple: cancelled Dollar Medal, 1973 Israel mint set, 1997 Canada mint set, 1964 Canada roll
Paul Van Skidle: 1976 B.E. medal
Jack Gruhler: 1977 Bi-centennial medal, Roman coin, ½ dollar books, liberty dime books, wheat pennies,
liberty quarter books,
Mona Heater: Coolidge medal, Roman coin, 1999 proof set, Israel mint set, presidential medal
Dan Waterman: ½ dollar album
Brittany Gruhler: Roman coin, Roman coin
Karen Sanquinetti: Roman coin, coin book, coin holders
Geraldine Podhurst: Roman coin
Larry Demangate: Roman coin
Ralph Marrone: 1872 proof set
Duke Morin: 81 mint set
Steve Podhurst: 2006 RCC medal
David Elliott: cancelled dollar medal
Gerry Podhurst: Nevada Paper dollars
Gerald Breedlove: Canada $1 coin
Andre Azzam: coin holders
Brittany Gruhler: President Taft medal, President Kennedy medal

Rick DeAvila was high bidder for 2000s South Carolina proof .25 at $21

Bonnie Elliott (not present) won the
quarter pot

Upcoming Coin Shows

Feb. 19-20 Santa Rosa
Sonoma County Fairgrounds
Redwood Empire Coin Club
(707) 585-3711/824-4811 pm

Feb. 21 San Jose
Cupertino Coin Club coin Show
408 839-1883

RCC Officers

Doug Larson…. President……843-0162
Karen Sanguinetti..Vice Pres
Ralph Marrone..Treasurer.……882-6741
Shannon Holmes ..Secretary….827-4359
Dan Waterman….Director……747-4380
Ken Hopple……..Director.......677-1544
Ed Waselewski…Director……354-0287
Gerald Breedlove….Director...425-2967
Duke Morin……….Director…856-4935
Paul Williams…ANA Rep...…720-5395

The RCC Board meets the third Tuesday of the month at the Carrow’s at 7:30PM. All members are
invited to attend.

The Other Coin: French & German Coins
French and German Coins have very different histories. French coins begin very early with the Celts or
Gauls minting coins in the 4th century BC after invading Greece and Rome and coining their loot or
settling in parts of Greece, Asia Minor (Galatia), Northern Italy, and all of France, renamed Gaul.

Germans relied on a barter system well into the 4th century AD while the Celts minted imitations of Phillip
II and Alexander the Great coins as well as minting a wide variety of their own abstract cast coins in
silver, bronze, and gold. The designs often look  like Picassos.

      Imitation of Phillip II                                                        Celtic coin of Britain, 1st BC
Even earlier in the 5th century BC cast bronze in the shape of bells, rings, wheels, and bead were used as
currency. German currency continued to be women and cattle. They did not even make imitation of
Roman coins until the Goths had established themselves in Italy in the 4th century AD and the Vandals
had overrun North Africa in the 5th century AD.

                            Coin of Vandal Hilderic, imitating Roman coin

The first German coins can be considered the various Victor German coins minted by Roman emperors,
who defeated various tribes attempting to invade Italy and Gaul. Although Julius Caesar fought German
tribes as well as Celtic tribes when he conquered Gaul, he minted coins commemorating the defeat of the
Celts, including their King Vercingetorix, but no coins commemorating his defeat of their German allies.


     Germania Capta coin of Domitian                                          Gallienus Victor German


Drusus's son was the first to commemorate his father's defeat of the Germans in 15BC. Later coins so
detailed the defeated Germans that they are our principle source for the arms and clothing of Germans at
the time of the Roman Empire. As their influence grew in Italy, finally conquering Rome in 490AD,
various German generals, then emperors, minted coins in their own names, imitating Roman coins. The
Gauls had various Roman mints in Arles (15BC), Lugdunum, and Ambianum.
After the fall of the Roman Empire, coinage mostly continued as imitation of Roman coins in France and
Germany. Roman and Byzantine coins also continued to circulate. Gradually, cities, dioceses, and nobles
minted their own coins, most often with crosses, monograms, and some crude portraiture.

                                                                                    Coin of Blois, c. 950AD

The rise of Charlemagne brought a flood of new gold and silver coins, but he divided his kingdom among
his three sons when he died, which resulted in distinctly French and German coins.

                                                                      Coin of Charlemagne

There were still scores of mints in France of Germany as each locality minted their own coins, but there
was also royal coinage of the kings of France (and kings of England in France) as well as the Holy Roman
Emperor, which became a largely German title. Portraiture improved, crests became common, and
fanciful designs also appeared to compete with various crosses on coins. Medieval coinage is still
relatively cheap to collect, but does not have standard references as do Greek, Roman, Byzantine, and
modern coins.

                                                                         1506 Bavaria

Up to modern times both France and Germany had many local jurisdictions minting coins, although
France had far fewer mints than Germany, which often had more than 100 minting authorities, whereas
France usually numbered mints in a couple of dozen. Both countries have distinctive coinage from WWI
and WWII in aluminum, iron, and zinc. Both countries have produced remarkable commemorative euro

                                   German and French coins from WWII

“Beautiful Places: Landmarks and Mintmarks” is the theme of 2010 National Coin Week, April 18-24. The
theme was chosen by a panel of ANA staff and club members, including our own David Elliott, who        
originally suggested the theme Beautiful Places. The theme celebrates the many landmarks and scenic
places that have inspired coin design.
Clubs are invited to help the ANA celebrate the week by participating in a number of fun and educational
events involving geography on coins. A scavenger hunt will be held in the form of a “road trip” visiting
beautiful places that have inspired designs on currency, and a program will be available for clubs to hold
at their April meeting. We encourage everyone to bring their most beautiful place coin for the April
meeting. David and Ken Hopple will be holding the dollar exchange (hopefully with the new shield penny
and national park quarter) on Friday April 23 and Saturday April 24. Prizes will be awarded for individuals
and clubs from the ANA.

Numismatically yours, David Elliott

Proposed Designs for 2010 Penny and Quarter

March Topic: Coins of India
April Topic: Beautiful Places: Landmarks and Mintmarks ANA
3rd BC Odessos, Thrace, Great God of
Celts with Kabeiros of Celts on reverse
Head of Vercingetorix/the same in chariot        
No January 2010
March 2010
English coins
April 2010
Minting the RCC
25th medal
May 2010
National coin
June 2010
July 2010
Cigar box of
August 2010
Coins of
September 2010
Syracuse Coins
October 2010
Cast Coins
November 2010
December 2010