Tuesday, 4th of October 7:30 PM
605 N. Wells Avenue (Wells and 6th), Reno, NV
October DMPL (Deep Mirror Like Proof) “Dimple” Morgan Dollars
Don’t miss this you’ll be able to see some of the best known Morgan Dollars.
November Happy Birthday Nevada
Rusty King, Coins and Medal of Nevada
Bring coins to trade and sell.
January Large Cents
Dan Waterman presents large cents.
At The Last Meeting
32 members were in attendance for ice cream and “Treasures of the Carson Mint.” The DVD explored the 2005 Carson
coin show at the mint with appearances of Ken Hopple, David Caruthers, Rusty Goe, and Al Blythe among others. Rusty Goe
presented the 1873 no arrows dime and quarter. These are the only 2 coins that the Carson Museum are missing. Paul
William discussed the ANA Chicago show and the rising price of gold and silver.
Let a club officer know if there is a topic you would like to hear. Someone in the club knows all.
Early Bird Prize was a state quarter album won by Bob Wagner.
Raffle prizes winners were:
Art Bonnel: 2004 mint set
George Francol: Wheat pennies
Dan Trabke: 1976 Mint set, 1974S proof penny, ancient coin replica, world coin book
Glenn Fruehen: American Bicentennial medal, George Washington dollars
Leo Russell: medals, Abe Lincoln Memorial medal, World Catolog of paper money
Rick de Avila: US digest coin book
William Gregory: Jefferson dollars
Larry Demangate: Alaska tokens book
Jack Gruhler: Nevada State coin
Bart Daniels: Virginia Culver coin, Money Clipper
Steve Podhurst: Ancient coin replica
Ken Hopple: World Coin Book
David Kasper: US Red Book
Quint Aninao: Gold and Silver book
Britney Gruhler: Guide to US Coins
I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO DONATES TO THE RAFFLE!
Rusty King donated a 1964 half won by Rick de Avila for $21.
No one won the quarter pot of about $8..
Fred Holabird wanted to remind everyone that the club’s large library is house by him at 3555 Airway
Drive #308 (around back as Holabird Americana). Call ahead 852-8822.
Upcoming Coin Shows
Sept.30-Oct.1 Sacramento Valley Coin Club Show
The Dante Club, 2330 Fair Oaks Blvd. Info: David Herr 530-885-9050 Admission $2, 17 and under free.
Oct.8-9 Concord Diablo Numismatic Society
The Red Lion Hotel, 1050 Burnett Ave, off 680. Info: Bill Green, 925 351-7605, firstname.lastname@example.org Admission $3.
Oct. 15-16 Stockton Delta Coin Club Show
Eagle’s Hall , 1492 Bourbon Street. Info: Ruben Smith III 209 982-5961, email@example.com Free Admission.
Oct. 22 Vallejo CSNA Northern California Annual Educational Symposium
Vallejo Naval Museum, 734 Marin at Capial. 9AM Theme: “Building a Collection.” Info: 707 246-6327.
We are planning to co-host AJ’s and Dan Water-man’s Fall 2012 coin show and will be getting the raffle togother this
November. What prizes would you like to see. And, WE NEED A RAFFLE CHAIRMAN.
David Elliott…. President….…815-8625
Rusty King..Vice President...... 673-6745
Andre Azzam ..Secretary…......338-0707
Ken Hopple ....….Director.......677-1544
Paul Williams….ANA Rep.....720-5395
The RCC Board meets the third Tuesday of the month at Carrow’s at 7:30PM. Everyone is invited to attend.
Not The Other Coin: National Park Quarters
I sold out of the National Park Quarters at the Nevada State Museum Coin Show and can see that their popularity is
increasing as more designs have animals and Civil War themes. Yosemite, Mount Hood, and the Grand Canyon were kind of
blah and a fountain for Arkansas Hot Springs as the first coin was worse. Yellowstone had a buffalo and geyser and made
the nicest of the first years series.
The US Commission for Fine Arts (CFA) and the Citizens Coin Advisory Commission (CCAC) established in 2003 appear to
have taken a more active interest in the National Park Coin Designs, wanting a more dramatic rendering of the National
Parks. 2011 coins:
All have animals or Civil War themes, making them much more appealing. Big horn sheep, an elk, and birds over the
Chicasaw Bridge are nice and the two Civil War coins with memorial and cannon and the iron clad ship came about the same
time as the Lincoln, US Grant dollars.
I will have the Iron Clad coin from Vicksburg at the October meeting:
Next years coin promise to be equally dramatic and pleasing:
The 2012 Sacagawea dollar is nice too:
Numismatically yours, David Elliott
Big Changes for the Mint in 2013?
Deputy Mint Director Richard Peterson spoke on August 19 at ANA World Fair of Money announcing that he is expected to
report on the state of American coinage, which is due for drastic change. It costs for more than a penny to make a penny,
more than a nickel to make the nickel, whose metal content is worth about 6 cents (Thus it is illegal to export or melt the
penny or nickel). No one wants the dollar or half dollar coins. there is probably need for a $2 and $5 dollar circulating coin. a
report to Congress about all of this is due in early 2013.
It’s True: Minters at the Philadelphia Mint are Making and Selling Error Coins!
The truth is out. This month a Philadelphia mint police officer pleaded guilty for selling error coins produced at the mint to a
major coin dealer, gleaning $2.4 million. The coins in questions were presidential dollar coins with blank edges, 10s of
thousands were sold by the police officer for $50-$75 a piece. Found guilty he is liable for a $250,000 fine and 10 years in
jail. (Why do white collar criminals always pay ten cents on the dollar for their crimes if that?)
What is a DMPL Morgan Dollar?
What are the differences betweenDeep Mirror Proof-Like (DMPL), Prooflike, and Semi-Prooflike Morgans? Morgan Dollars
are some of the most beautiful U.S. coins ever made, not only because of their design, but because of the quality of the strike
on many of the coins, especially the earlier dates in the series. Such Morgan Dollars are called DMPL (Deep Mirror Proof-
Like,) Prooflike (PL,) and Semi-Prooflike, (SPL.) But how do you tell the difference between DMPL, PL, and SPL Morgan
There are a couple of ways to tell the difference between DMPL, PL, and SPL Morgan Dollars. The most common way, and
probably the most reliable, is to hold the coin on its edge next to a page of printed matter (such as a newspaper) where you
have marked off the inches with a ruler on the table.. You should have good light directed towards the coin (but not directly
into the coin such that is reflecting.) Then, look into the coin's mirrored surface and see how far down the scale you can
clearly read the text.
DMPL Reflectivity Scale:
Here is the scale that denotes the proper designation for the coin, based on reflectivity:
Semi-Prooflike (SPL) - 1 to 2 inches, devices must be frosted
Prooflike (PL) - 2 to 4 inches of reflectivity
Deep Mirror Prooflike (DMPL) - More than 4 inches
Ultra Proof-like (UPL) - At least 8 inches
The designation of Ultra Prooflike is not in widespread use, and qualifying coins are fairly rare. The standard to qualify for
UPL varies; some authorities say 12 inches of reflectivity should be the standard. It is important to remember that in order to
qualify for the designations noted above, the entire surface must be mirrored, with no grayish areas or lost reflectivity due to
variations in the mirror quality. Normal bag marks and scuffs are permissible. If only one side of the coin is Prooflike, the
coin doesn't qualify unless the grading service offers separate designations for each side of the coin, and even then, usually
the obverse must be the Prooflike side in order to count.