Next Meeting:
Tuesday, 26th of October 7 PM (4th Tuesdays now)
Denny’s,205 Nugget Ave.(at East McCarran), Sparks

October 27 Oktoberfest. Bring your German coins and medals! Laurel Hoggan

October 30-31 Coin Exchange at Nevada Day David and Trish will have the new coins at the museum. Admission is free and the parade is on Saturday. The coin press is being

November 24 Happy Birthday NV! Rusty King

December 22
Minibourse! Bring coins to sell or trade

The Last Meeting
31 members had ice-cream and watched a DVD on “Carson City Half Dollars.” The Nevada National Banks Notes in the Holabird Auction sold for thousands each and the
McGil note went for $25,000. Johnson $1 and Delaware .25 will be at the October meeting. The Saratoga .25 is scheduled for release 11-30. Ken Hopple broke the coin
, not really, but it is down for repairs and he can hopefully give us the details. I made it to the Wells Fargo Museum and Roman silver exhibit at the Legion (more
below) in San Francisco as well as the Diablo coin show in Walnut Creek. I plan to attend the
De Young Panama-Pacific International Exposition of 1915 exhibit, October 17
to January 10 in December. See Wells Fargo did not have anything on the coins and medals of the PPIE, but lots of pictures and even a brief film
made at the time. Very cool stage coaches, pony express and stagecoach mail, a history of currency including a complete 1854 coin set, dozens of different gold dust samples
from CA rivers, gold coins recovered from the Brother Johnathan, wrecked in 1865, gold nuggets and ores, Wells Fargo in history and film. Go when you’re in SF.
Don’t forget
to bring something for the Bid Board
. No historical bourse this Dec.

Early Bird Prize was copper round won by Paul Williams.             .            Delaware .25, NA $1, Johnson $1 here.

Raffle prizes winners were:
David Elliott: 2004 proof set
Faye Allen: steel penny set
Dan Trabke: roll of 2009 pennies,
mystery box
Cole Allen: 1973 proof set
Jeff Allen: 1993 proof set
Leo Rossow: Brass RCC medal, roll undated buffalo .05, Red Book
Ken Hopple: chocolate coins, copper round
Bart Daniels: 1st day Penn state .25, Presidential bicentennial medal
Jerry Breedlove: copper round
Claude Sendon: 2 mint bags

I’m missing about 7 prizes, please let Andre know what
you won.)

                No Auction

                Quarter Pot
Laurel Hoggan won the quarter pot. About $15.

I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO DONATES TO THE RAFFLE! (especially Laurel for the Aces tickets)

Upcoming Coin Shows

October 30-31,
Nevada Day at the Nevada State Museum, Ken at the press and Dave at the club table, free admission and a parade on Saturday!

October 30-Nov 1, Las Vegas Coin, Currency, Stamp Show, Orleans Hotel, Israel Bick, 818 997-6496, (Also Dec 18-20)

November 1, Peninsula Coin Club Show, San Jose, Napredak Hall, 770 Montague Expressway, Tables: 37, Fred van den Haak, 650 498-4158,

November 6-7, Sacramento Coin Show, Lion’s Gate Hotel, 3410 Westover St., Tables: 66, Admit: $3, Peter McIntosh, 916 317-9055, www. (Also Dec. 6)

November 7, Visalia Coin Club Show, Sons of Italy Hall, 4211 West Goshen Ave., Admit: FREE, Leo D’Andrea, 559 738-8128,

November 13-14, Sunnyvale Coin Show, Domain Hotel, 1085 East El Camino Real, Tables: 30+, Admit: $3, Bill Green, 925 351-7605, www.

RCC Officers
David Elliott….......... President….......…815-8625
Rusty King..............Vice President......... 677-7057
Doug Larson............Past President..........843-0162
Gerald Breedlove........Treasurer..............425-2967
Andre Azzam ..............Secretary….........338-0707
Paul Williams…..........Director….......…720-5395
Joe Wozniak.............…Director…......…853-4223
Ken Hopple ....…..........Director..............677-1544
Shannon Holmes...........Director..............827–4359
Paul Williams…..........ANA Rep.............720-5395
David Elliott...................Editor................815-8625
The RCC Board meets the 4th Tuesday of the month at Denny’s at
6:30 PM. Everyone is invited to attend

The Other Coin: German Coins

Germans relied on a barter system well into the 4th century. German currency continued to be women and cattle. They did not even make imitations of Roman coins until the
Goths were in Italy in the 4th century AD and the Vandals had overrun North Africa in the 5th century AD.

     Vandal King Hilderic 523-530AD,  imitating Roman coin                                                         Goths, Taman Peninsula, 3rd-4th AD crude head left, crude standing Mars

The first German coins can be considered the various Victor German coins minted by Roman emperors, who defeated various German tribes  invading Italy and Gaul. Augustus’
grandnephew Drusus (15 BC-19AD) was surnamed Germanicus for repeatedly defeating the Germans from 9AD to 16AD, including those that had destroyed 3 Roman legions in
9AD in the Teutoburg forest. He managed to recover the lost legionary eagles. So fearful was Emperor Tiberius of his popularity that he had Germanicus transferred to Asia, then
poisoned. Germanicus Drusus was longed remembered as the perfect Roman. Later coins so detailed the defeated Germans that they are our principle source for the arms and

                                                               Germanicus above left, Gallienius and Domitian with trophy and German captives right

clothing of Germans at the time of the Roman Empire.The Germans finally conquered Rome in 490AD, various German generals, then emperors, minted coins in their own names,
imitating Roman coins. After the fall of the Roman Empire, coinage mostly continued as imitation of Roman coins. Roman and Byzantine coins also continued to circulate.
Gradually, cities, dioceses, and nobles minted their own coins, most often with crosses, monograms, and crude portraiture.

                                              The Ostro-Goth Theodoric 493-518 AD left and Hilderic 534-536 AD right

The rise of Emperor Charlemagne (800-814 AD) brought a flood of new gold and silver coins, still imitating Roman models. Upon his death, he divided his kingdom among his
three sons, which resulted in distinctly a German region. Although Germans continued the denarius, often call a denier following Charlemagne, the Germans also produced thin,
uniface bracteates in a wide array of designs. Silver coins dominated coinage and ever smaller, cut, or thinner coins were used for small  change. There were scores of mints for

             A rare portrait denier of Charlemagne                                                                    gold coin augustalis  of Friedrich II 1197-1250)

                                                                                           Various German bracteates

each town, bishop, monastery
, and nobleman. There was also royal coinage of the Holy Roman Emperor, which became a largely German title, lasting until 1806, when Francis
became the Emperor of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Portraiture improved, crests became common, and fanciful designs also appeared to compete with various crosses on coins.
Gold became more common as did copper coinage and Roman coppers were still in circulation into the 19th century. Medieval coinage is still relatively cheap to collect, but does


       HRE Otto III 983-1002AD                                                                                                        HRE Leo the Hogmouth 1640-1705AD)

not have standard references as do Greek, Roman, Byzantine, and modern coins
. Up to modern times Germany had many local jurisdictions minting coins with more than 100
minting authorities until unified in 1870.

German States: Prussia, Brunswick, Hanover, Bavaria,
and Sachsen

    Germany had distinctive coinage from WWI and WWII in aluminum, iron, and zinc. After WWI, Germany inflated its currency in order to pay reparations in worthless money,
creating hundreds of jurisdictions minting “Notgeld,” “not money,” for local change and commerce in coinage then notes. At its worst stamps and paper money (see below) were
issued in the 100s of millions of marks (the German dollar). The inflation caused the collapse of the German economy, and was a major reason for the rise of Hitler

                                                                  Notgeld coins and notes

Hitler produced many coins with the famous swastikas well as coins and notes for occupied territories.

                                                                                                                                              German occupied Belgium, France, Czechoslovakia, and Netherlands

    After WWII Germany was divided into Allied West Germany(below left) and Communist East Germany (below right) both with their own currency. When Germany was
reunited in 1991, West Germany currency was used and the East German currency was destroyed. Already part of the European Union, Germany was one of the first states to use
the the euro in 1999. Germany continues to mint bullion, commemorative coins, and euros.

Finally, it is fun to collect the inflationary currency of Germany in the 1920s
and 1930s. You can be an instant billionaire.

                                                                                                                                                                                 German euros

Numismatically yours, David Elliott

Numismatic Potpourri
 The Roman silver exhibit at the Legion of Honor through January 10th
not only had the largest and finest horde of Roman silver plate dedicated to a temple of Hermes, but
also several gold and jeweled treasures  from Louis XIV Cabinet of Medals, including the largest gold and silver plates.
Th gold patera has several gold aurei. I will bring the
exhibit catalog of this and Wells Fargo Museum.The legal drama goes on to decide the fate of the
10 1933 $20 gold coins in the possession of the family of the late Israel Switt, a
Philadelphia  jeweler who obtained the
coins in the 1930s. A federal appeals court is being asked to reverse the lower court’s order to return the coins to the family. The family
sent them to the mint in 2005 for authentication and the government kept them.
Three of  2016 quarter designs have been approved and the other 2 approved with recommended
changes. The Ellis Island building is deemed
not iconic enough and another building or the island itself was suggested, while the effigy mounds needed to drawn to scale.

The Lions Club get an 100th anniversary medal in 2017. That’s the founder Melvin Jones on the obverse. 6 people were arrested in Turkey with dies, planchettes, and
finished ISIS coins.
Go to:  if you want to see the dies and materials. The 2nd installment of the D. Brent Pogue
Collection auction by Stack’s Bowers Galleries and Sotheby’s brought $26,120,838
in high bids, surpassing the highest pre-sale estimate of $20.6425 million. Widely
acclaimed as the most valuable group of coins ever assembled by a private collector, the D. Brent Pogue Collection includes over 600 of the finest early American coins in
existence, nearly all struck in Philadelphia between 1792 and 1840. After just two of five planned auctions, the D. Brent Pogue Collection has already netted more than $50 million.
The “Lord St. Oswald” specimen of the 1794 dollar, graded MS-66+ (PCGS) and considered the finest circulation strike 1794 dollar in existence realized $4,993,750. The second
highest price was the finest known 1795 $10 in existence, graded MS-66+ (PCGS). It more than doubled the high estimate of $1.2 million, receiving a final bid of $2,585,000. See
them on-line.
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