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Next Meeting: Tuesday, 24th of September (4th Tuesdays) Denny’s,205 Nugget Ave.(at East McCarran), Sparks September 24 Caribbean Islands Coins Laurel Hoggah September 27 New Coins at the Museum October 22 Happy Birthday NV! Rusty King October 25,26 Nevada Day at the Museum Free Admission November 26 A Panel on Gold and Bullion The Last Meeting 36 members got to hear Dan Waterman’s discussion on large cents, and Robert Rodriguez brought a gold ducat of Ferdinand and Isabella with facing portraits. He presented Ken Hopple with one of the silver centered Indian head pennies he made and Jeanne LaShelle engraved to help prove that the silver centered large cent was a modern fake, the silver center that is, not the coin. Video: https://nnp.wustl.edu/library/book/568344 The Club will be accepting credit cards. Mary Long knows how to set that up. The Innovation dollars designs are out (see below) and I will get them. We will be getting the last 6 quarters in rolls as they are easier to get in circulation now. I got a W quarter when I noticed my wife was handing a 2019 quarter to a grankid for an arcade game and checked it out. Got the Texas quarter, the last 2019 quarter comes out Nov. 4th, and the next dollar Sept 19. I will buy the Innovation dollars in PD rolls in case they do not sell well. There will be a new dollar coin each month. Hope you saw Sam Dibitonto’s seated Liberty potty dollar. We will be getting rid of the park .25 in bags for a .25 next meeting. Paul Anthony former RCC member wants to sell his US coin collection to members next meeting. He even has old club medals. E- mail me if you want list. Bring up to 5 coins for the bid board now, We have board meetings before the meeting and ask for quiet so we can conduct business. Please leave upper right seats open for board members. Contact me with any ideas or problems: 815-8625 datbbelliotts@prodigy.net CONTACT A CONGRESSMAN a day for our Morgan 2021 CC. Early Bird Prize: set of steel .01 won by Fred Holabird. Raffle prizes winners were: Bart Daniels: 1842 Large Cent mystery box by Laurel, set NA $1, steel .01 set, buffalo .05 Rick De Avilla: partially filled .01 book, bag of British coins, Mercury .10 Ken Hopple: 1911 .25, 3 smashed .01 Doug Harper: set presidential $1, Georgia mint book Dan Waterman: partially filled .01 album Leo Rossow: 2 Ikes, Indian head .01 & arrowhead, steel .01set Andrew Hopple: bag of foreign coins, 2018S .25 set Milton Angel: standing Liberty copper round Ed Scott 1 gram silver Karen Hopple .05 album with .05s David Elliott: bronze club medal (went to Mark Amodie) Bill Nailer: 2 coin bags, chocolate coins Laurel Hoggan: 5 year set holders Mary Long: 2016 spiral Red Book Auctions No auctions Quarter Pot Leo Rossow WON the quarter pot, over $20! THANKS everyone for donating to the RAFFLE! Upcoming Coin Shows September 26, Sacramento Valley Coin Clubs Show, Four Points Sheraton Hotel, 4900 Duckhorn Drive, Admit: $3, Tables: 50, Bob Shanks 916 204-5168 Robert. Shanks@att.net www.sacvalcc.org October 12-14, Diablo Numismatic Society Coin Show, Elk’s Lodge, 1475 Creekside Dr., Walnut Creek, Admit: $3, Dealers: 30, James Laird 925 200-2276 Info@DiabloCoinClub.org www.diablocoinclub.org October 19-20, Delta Coin Club Show, Eagle’s Hall, 1492 Bourbon St., Stockton, Admit: FREE, Tables: 40+ Ruben Smith 209 982-5961 rubensmith@hotmail.com October 26-27, Fresno Coin Club Coin Show, Las Palmas Masonic Center, 2992 E. Clinton Ave., Admit: $2, Tables: 45. Richard Hunter 559 738-8128 www. fresnocoinclub.com RCC Officers David Elliott….......... President…........…815-8625 Rusty King..............Vice President......... 677-7057 Doug Larson............Past President..........843-0162 Mary Long..................Treasurer.............853-0696 Andre Azzam ..............Secretary….........338-0707 Laurel Hoggan…..........Librarian..........…223-5096 Joe Wozniak.............…Director…......818 321-6678 Ken Hopple ....…..........Director..............677-1544 Shannon Holmes...........Director..............827–4359 Paul Williams…..........ANA Rep..............720-5395 David Elliott...................Editor................815-8625 datbbelliotts@prodigy.net www.renocoinclub.org The Other Coin: Coins of the Caribbean Spain, Britain, France, Netherlands, and the US have all had colonies in the Caribbean. Coins were minted as early as the 1505 Spanish cob, the 17th century British Sommer Islands (Bermuda) pence and shilling coins, and coins for Jamaica in the 19th century. France held some 23 Caribbean islands, producing coinage for several of them including Haiti, French Guiana, Guadeloupe, and Saint Kitts. The Dutch Caribbean comprises the islands of Aruba, Curaçao, Saint Marten, Bonaire, Saint Eustatius, and Saba. Sweden made coins for St. Bartholomew. Just as the US swiped Puerto Rico from Spain, the various European nations nabbed Caribbean islands and territories from Spain or each other. Thanks to Columbus, Spain claimed the entire Caribbean and had some 12 mints in the Americas including Hispaniola. The Spanish cobs, reals, and escudos are often marketed as treasure or pirate coins and were the primary coinage of colonial Americas as well as the Caribbean. There are some 7,000 islands with 13 sovereign nations (14 if you count Bermuda , 12 dependent territories, and many uninhabited islands. Major islands are: Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda, Aruba, Bahamas, Barbados, British Virgin Islands, Cayman Islands, Cuba, Dominica, Dominican Republic, Grenada, Guadeloupe, Haiti, Jamaica, Martinique, Netherlands Antilles, Puerto Rico, Saint Barthelmey, Saint Kitts and Nevis, Saint Lucia, Saint Martin, Saint Vincent, Trinidad and Tobago, Turks and Caicos Islands, United States Virgin Islands, and outlying Bermuda. Early coinage was often counter stamped Spanish coins or the coins of the previous colonial owner. Below, cut Spanish coin with a SV stamp when Britain took St. Vincent, and next to it a cob marked for Curacao of the Netherlands Antilles. By the late 20th centuries Netherlands, France, and Britain made coins for their colonial possessions. Coins of Bermuda and Jamaica with George III and Victoria. 1794 gulden of Curacao and 2 florin coin with Queen Beatrix of Netherlands. French coins of 1789 Cayenne Island best known as Devil Island and a Haitian coin of 1839 with Liberty, Republique Francaise, and Liberte Equalite, and Fraternite. Independent islands coinage nations often have sea life, ships, and fanciful shapes Independent islands' coinage often have sea life, ships, and fanciful shapes. On the right coins of Cayman Islands, left Barbados, below left Eastern Caribbean. Numismatically yours, David Elliott Numismatic Potpourri The big news is that the designs for the Innovation dollars are out and we will get the dollars over the next four months. The Delaware coins has the profile of Annie Jump Cannon who developed a system of star classification at Harvard Observatory on the late 19th century that is still used today. The Pennsylvania dollar celebrates the polio vaccine depicting a period micro scope and the virus. The New Jersey dollar depicts the Edison light bulb, and the Georgia dollar has plants representing the 1730s experimental garden known as the Trustees’ Garden. The designs are clever and attractive. The designs for the last six quarters are also out: A Samoan fruit bat, A painter at Weir Farm for Connecticut, a mangrove tree for US Virgin Islands, Vermont has a child planting a tree, Kansas has a butter-fly over the prairie, and Alabama has the Tuskegee airmen of WWII. Robert Rodriguez brought the first 2 1793 cents with a chain or olive wreath reverse. There is quite a story to America’s first cents in 1793. The US mint could only make copper large cents and half cents because the officials had balked at the idea of a required $10,000 bond, which they had to post before making gold and silver. The first 1793 had a chain reverse that for many implied bondage, perhaps bondage to a federal government as onerous as the British. Henry Voight was given the task of changing the reverse, replacing the chain with a wreath. There are some varieties in the 63,353 mintage of the 1793 wreath reverse. The initial examples came with a vines and bars edge while the later ones have a lettered edge which says, “ONE HUNDRED FOR A DOLLAR.” The obverse would show a normal sprig above the date but on four known examples it is a spray of trefoil leaves and small blossoms called the “Strawberry Leaf” variety. No one precisely knows how this happened, but it is very rare with just four well-circulated being known. For most, however, any example of the 1793 will do. It had a low mintage in part because it was discontinued very quickly this time in favor of a new obverse. The new Liberty cap 1793 would have a low mintage of just 11,056 and it is very tough to find. The new Texas quarter is based on an old Spanish cob with mission bells instead of a castle, added wheat and waves of the San Antonio River. . From the New York COMEX closes on Dec. 28, 2018, to Sept. 3, 2019, the price of gold jumped 20.2%. How have the prices of common-date pre-1934 US gold coins fared over them time period? Here are how the retail selling prices have changed for the 8-piece $2.50-$20.00 Liberty and Indian type sets: Extremely Fine condition: +17.1%, Mint State-62 condition: +14.1%, Mint State-63 condition: +10.3%, Mint State-64 condition: +2.6%, Mint State-65 condition: -1.2%, None of these 8-coin sets appreciated to the same degree as the rise in gold’s price. Evidently there is a 6 month lag between rise and gold and rise of gold coin prices with the less fine coins appreciating first. There are still about 145 million of the older coins round pound coins still outstanding after being demonetized. Britain’s round £1 coin has been replaced by a 12-sided coin meant to deter counterfeiters. According to the British Royal Mint, a staggering one in 30 of the round version of the denomination were counterfeits when the newer 12-sided (dodecagonal) version was introduced on March 28, 2017. This statistic sounds even worse when you consider there were about 1.7 billion round variety pounds in circulation at that time. That calculates to about 57.8 million fakes. At the exchange rate current at the time this article was being written this equals more than $69 million US in fake £1 coins. Banks still allow you to deposit round pound coins. Edward VIII, who declined the British throne to marry the American divorce Mrs. Wallis Simpson, had a few coins and patterns made and are of the highest rarity. Few are available to collectors. There are no more than two of any denomination is in private hands, but for half the denominations there is just one. This Edward VIII penny was sold by Mark Rasmussen privately in 2003 for a reported £35,000. It is offered by Spink on September 24th as part of the Waterbird Collection and is expected to realize more than $50,000. It is the year of the mouse in 2020, and the Perth mint may have already won cutest mouse coin with a Minion mouse. Other Perth offerings include a dragon and phoenix, a book loving Simpson coin, Captain Marvel ,Captain America’s shield, and Bugs Bunny (on line). 6 winners on the PCGS W quarter, splitting $2000 for Texas quarter. 5 from Utah and 1 from Texas. San Francisco proof Eagles are selling well. You can buy 5 oz of gold dust from the SS Central America in PCGS holders now. NGC certified 1871-75 Seated Liberty half dollar struck on quarter planchet. Mystery at the museum. Recognize it? Tell me. |
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